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The BRE was hired by HM Government back in the early 2000s to develop the EPC national measurement system. Their advice today is helpful and well timed. As a Chartered Surveyor, commercial landlord and residential landlord I and my clients have used the EPC system over the last 16 years. Let's make no bones about it, EPCs, MEES and the national public database have helped to greatly reduce energy waste, reduce fuel poverty and reduce CO2 pollution. EPCs and MEES have worked and they continue to help improve quality and standards in our national building stock. It's a national succuss story - but as Brits we don't like to admit that we've had a success and or are actually good at something. What is unfathomable is why so many PRS domestic landlords have chosen not to install basic insulation in the walls and lofts of their units and fit a lower running cost central heating system. Doing these simple things, over a period of time, is common sense. Always has been. EPCs are now reliable and accurate if you work with a good assessor and pay them a fee appropriate for a professional service. That's that same with any professional service. We've had the Conservative's excellent Minimum Energy Efficiency Standard (MEES) in place for 9 years but still thousands of landlords think it makes long-term investment sense to own a poor-quality asset and have their customers in crippling fuel poverty. The domestic EPC has always told landlords and tenants precisely what they need to know. The headline EPC Grade is the running cost measurement. That's the correct thing to measure for most - my rental occupiers care about winter heating bills and NOT carbon emissions. But if you do care about carbon emissions the certificate has (since 2008) presented a secondary EPC Grade with the CO2 pollution measurement. Sensible landlords look at BOTH EPC Grades and aim to get them BOTH to Grade C or better. I can't believe that there are still some domestic landlords that don't understand the EPC national measurement system.

From: Martin Gibbons 01 February 2024 07:52 AM

Martin Gibbons
From what I read in the professional property press it seems pretty certain that the Conservatives are looking at: 1. The Tories excellent, flag-ship legislation of the Minimum Energy Efficiency Standard 2015 (MEES) will be slowed down for the domestic rental sector. EPC Grade D, as a minimum by 2028, for new lettings and continuing lettings seems to be their preferred pathway. Grade D is the average grade for a UK home. 2. The sensible MEES self-exemption register will remain in place allowing domestic landlords to continue to rent out their units if the cost of upgrade is prohibitively high. Many landlords have already self-exempted themselves from the MEES Grade E minimum standard. All makes sense. 3. The domestic EPC national measurement system will be bought in line with commercial EPCs and will show the carbon dioxide pollution measure as the primary EPC Grade. The current running cost EPC Grade will also be show. The EPC Recommendations will then NOT recommend the installation of new gas boilers - this is the reform that many Letting Today readers have been calling for. 4. For houses and flats with different heating systems domestic energy assessors will now have to use the Full SAP software which allows for many more inputs and is much more accurate (that's why legally it has to be used for all new housing EPCs). Again this brings domestic EPCs in line with commercial EPCs where, since 2008, complex commercial buildings have had to be assessed by more highly qualified professionals. This all seems rational, appropriate and proportionate. This will help to steadily improve private rental houses and flats over the long-term to be 'fit-for-purpose' for both landlords and tenants.

From: Martin Gibbons 04 September 2023 08:26 AM

Martin Gibbons
From what I read in the professional property press it seems pretty certain that the Conservatives are looking at: 1. The Tory's excellent, flagship legislation of the Minimum Energy Efficiency Standard 2015 (MEES) will be slowed down for the domestic rental sector. EPC Grade D, as a minimum by 2028, for new lettings and continuing lettings seems to be their preferred pathway. Grade D is the average grade for a UK home. 2. The sensible MEES self-exemption register will remain in place allowing domestic landlords to continue to rent out their units if the cost of upgrade is prohibitively high. Many landlords have already self-exempted themselves from the MEES Grade E minimum standard. All makes sense. 3. The domestic EPC national measurement system will be bought in line with commercial EPCs and will show the carbon dioxide pollution measure as the primary EPC Grade. The current running cost EPC Grade will also be shown. The EPC Recommendations will then NOT recommend the installation of new gas boilers - this is the reform that many Letting Today readers have been calling for. 4. For houses and flats with different heating systems domestic energy assessors will now have to use the Full SAP software which allows for many more inputs and is much more accurate (that's why legally it has to be used for all new housing EPCs). Again this brings domestic EPCs in line with commercial EPCs where, since 2008, complex commercial buildings have had to be assessed by more highly qualified professionals. This all seems rational, appropriate and proportionate. This will help to steadily improve private rental houses and flats over the long-term to be 'fit-for-purpose' for both landlords and tenants.

From: Martin Gibbons 04 September 2023 07:58 AM

Martin Gibbons
Not a thick question at all, Peter. If you are just focussed on 'running cost' then, at the moment, it is still cheaper to burn gas in a combi boiler to power wet radiator central heating compared to heating a house with 'dumb' electric panel wall heaters that use expensive day-time electricity. With these old fashioned electric panel heaters you put in 1kW of expensive day-time electricity but only get out 1kW of heat energy. Over time Governments will tax the burning of gas just as they have taxed the burning of petrol and diesel for many years. But if you want to reduce 'CO2 pollution' then the only game in town is to use electricity to do the heating because the UK's national grid electricity is now becoming very green after successive Governments building massive off-shore wind farms for the last 23 years and with 1,000s more planned to be built in the North Sea. So the answer for UK housing is to insulate houses and flats very well (that's what Social Registered Landlords have been doing for years) and then transition over to 'intelligent' electric heating which means the clever Dimplex Quantum night storage heaters (using the much cheaper night-time tariff) or air-to-air source heat pumps (like the simple Panasonic units) with wall mounted cassettes inside in the living room and bedrooms linked to an electric condenser outside. Remember, the simple and highly effective Minimum Energy Efficiency Standard (MEES) Regs will always have the Exemption Register for buildings that will cost too much to improve. If you self-exempt yourself from MEES you can still rent out your property. The Regs have had this sensible 'pressure release valve' built-in since the Tories introduced MEES in 2015.

From: Martin Gibbons 28 July 2023 15:03 PM

Martin Gibbons
The new MEES Bill is already speeding its way through Parliament. The Minimum Energy Performance of Buildings Bill 2022-23 had its first reading in March this year and the second reading is in November this year. According to my local MP the Bill met with complete cross party support a few weeks ago. The 8 million+ voters living in fuel poverty and the £29 billion Government subsidy paid directly to fossil fuel energy producers (which could have paid for the NHS or tax cuts) has focussed the politicians' minds. The Bill confirms the timetable that all energy wasteful EPC Grade D and Grade E rental houses and flats must be upgraded to Grade C by 2028, at the latest. So that gives domestic landlords a full 5 years to insulate the walls, loft or roof and install lower running cost heating systems into their rental units. It would seem a sensible hedge to invest in an All Electric heating systems (within the well insulated property) because CO2 pollution tax and price rises are clearly on the horizon as we decarbonise the UK Electricity Grid at pace and scale (25% of our nation's electricity demand already met by renewables after 23 years of ringing the British Isles in the world's largest wind farms). Landlords need to get an up-to-date draft 'as is' EPC and then a draft 'predicated' EPC showing the best pathway to reach EPC Grade C. All very simple and easy to do when the unit is vacant and in-between tenancies. Landlords have 5 years to improve their assets and stop energy waste. I wonder how many will get on with this essential work and how many will be moaning and bleating in January 2028 when they realise that they've done nothing over the next 5 years. Of course, they will blame the Greta, Just Stop Oil, the Government, the Opposition, their customer tenants, their managing agent - in fact everyone except themselves.

From: Martin Gibbons 22 May 2023 07:35 AM

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What this report fails to highlight are the thousands and thousands of residential landlords who identified this issue years ago and who have been working methodically and diligently to improve their rental units. EPCs came in 15 years ago, MEES Regs went live 8 years ago, its been totally illegal to receive rent from a tenant in an EPC Grade F or G house/flat for over 3 years. Let's be frank - rental units that are EPC Grade D or worse means the tenant is almost certainly living in fuel poverty, cannot heat themselves/family properly and cannot afford even an inflationary rent increase. Bad for them and very bad for the landlord. None of this is new news and the vast majority of landlords who attend CPD sessions organised by their solicitor, actually READ professional journals (rather than the web echo-chambers) have been improving their units over many years. Energy wasteful units (EPC Grade D or worse) are NOT fit-for-purpose and make terrible 'investment assets' for landlords. A domestic EPC is a straightforward running cost calculation and there are 21+ million on the public, national database. Long-term landlords get a draft predicted EPC done by a local energy assessor - insulate the walls and loft of their units and install a modern, efficient heating system such a gas combi or Dimplex night storage heaters (have you seen the low cost of night-time electricity thanks to the Government, Crown Estate and Orsted ringing the British Isles with off-shore wind turbines over the past 23 years?). Rational landlords have been 'getting on with it' for years and we're not stopping!

From: Martin Gibbons 19 April 2023 08:46 AM

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I, as a professional commercial and residential landlord, totally disagree with Ben Quaintrell. Rental houses and flats that are not already EPC Grade C are energy wasteful and NOT fit-for-purpose. These rental units have no place in our national's private rental sector. Tenants who live in these sub-standard buildings are in terrible fuel poverty. Before the war started 3 million UK families lived in fuel poverty and that number has now risen to 8 million. This is not good for business. I and thousands of other landlords have reinvested into our assets over a long period of time and now have portfolios of energy efficient, high quality houses and flats that tenants can actually afford to heat during the winter. The Government has given landlords masses of notice. EPCs came in 15 years ago. The MEES legislation went on the Statute books 8 years ago. How long do landlords need to insulate the walls and roof of their rental assets and install a modern, efficient heating system?? Commission a draft 'as is' EPC from a decent energy assessor, work with them to produce a draft 'predicted' EPC that gets you to EPC Grade C and then carryout the works. How difficult is that. In my experience that moaners are those amateur landlords who think being a landlord is dead easy 'passive income' and you can get away without re-investing a penny back into the asset that gives you income. No sound business runs like that but a few (vocal) Buy-To-Let landlords think they can keep 100% of the rental income year after year. Business doesn't work like that and they will have their wealth removed from them by legislation, but most importantly by the market.

From: Martin Gibbons 14 April 2023 09:32 AM

Martin Gibbons
This was all predictable several years ago. The Minimum Energy Efficiency Standard (MEES) went on to the UK statute book some 8 years ago but sadly a few short-sighted 'it will all go away' landlords chose not to reinvest into their assets and stop their houses and flats from being energy wasteful. As contributors to LettingAgentToday said several years ago these landlords will have their wealth removed from them by the Legislation, and now increasingly by the Market. Every pound that our tenants spend on gas in an energy wasteful house/flat is a pound that they don't have left to pay the rent or afford an inflationary rent increase. A domestic EPC is a straightforward Running Cost Calculation (nothing to do with carbon emissions). I'm told that our civil servants chose this methodology back in 2008 because folk worried more about energy bills rather than CO2 - I don't think its actually changed some 15 years later. The required once every 10 years £75 domestic EPC certificate never claimed to solve a climate emergency or reduce adult obesity - but it does show a tenant or owner occupier if they will be living in fuel poverty or not. Anyway, I've gradually sorted my domestic rentals and got them all up to EPC Grade C - so I'm already MEES 2025/28 Compliant. I even had a tenant thank me for the work I'd organised on the flat she rents when my builder added Recticel Instafit insulation panels (from B&Q) to the internal walls before undertaking some periodic redecoration works. Wonders will never cease! Happy Easter holidays everyone

From: Martin Gibbons 03 April 2023 07:42 AM

Martin Gibbons
I don't know a single, well-informed domestic landlord who has not already improved their stock up to EPC Grade C. Its so blindingly obvious. Why would we want our customers living in fuel poverty, spending money on gas and electricity (that goes straight off to Norway and Qatar) when that money would be better spent on some rent increases - or just paying the current rent! EPCs came in in 2008, the MEES Regs came in the 2015, the Government has done the right thing and given all landlords, both domestic and commercial, bags of notice - 8 years to be precise. The only landlords I've seen that push back on making their assets better and fit-for-the-future, are the tiny minority on this website! I sometimes doubt that these contributors are actually landlords at all. They don't seem to be rational, well informed or invest for the long-term. I think they may be in the wrong business. The Sunday Times article is interesting because, from what I've read in the professional property press this week, their whole so-called analysis has back-fired and actually proved the positive case for EPCs, not the reverse. Their evidence shows that folk living in the worst houses and flats in the UK use less energy than the EPC model would suggest. WOW, really??!! Well, the EPC model assumes that the tenant heats the whole property to 20 degree all winter long. Only Jeff Bezos could afford to heat an EPC Grade F or G house all winter long. That's precisely the point. The tenants living in EPC Grade E, F and G homes ONLY HEAT ONE ROOM, and they don't do that very often. CarbonLaces have PROVED how accurate EPCs are and their 'research' proves that 8 million families are today living in terrible fuel-poverty. Which means they don't have the CASH TO PAY THE RENT. I, and every professional landlord I do business with, will continue to improve our investment assets through careful energy efficiency upgrades. Normally best done when the unit is in between tenancies.

From: Martin Gibbons 02 March 2023 07:26 AM

Martin Gibbons
Propertymark - keep up with the times guys!! The Government is launching the Eco Plus scheme in just a few weeks time. Lots of grants, subsidies and handouts that Propertymark has been calling for. The Government is dumping 'Helicopter Cash' on those who want to improve their rental investment properties and their own homes. It's NOT means tested and you just need to be EPC Grade D or lower and be a in lower Council Tax band. Propertymark, your market intervention dreams have come true!! Will you be issuing a Press Release saying how POSITIVE you think Eco Plus will be and that the Government has actually listened and acted? Bet you don't. 21,000,000 domestic EPCs now on the national database - epcregister . com 1,000,000 commercial EPCs now on the national database - about 95% of all commercial rental buildings Domestic landlords have to pay £65 once every 10 years for an EPC. It's the lowest cost compliance inspection we have to obtain. The robust national database is the greatest detailed survey of the country's building stock since William the Conqueror commissioned the Domesday Book in 1086. It was used after the Grenfell Tower disaster to accurately identify all high-rise apartment blocks. This information was obtained for the Prime Minister within 60 minutes of her request. The straightforward domestic EPC is a 'running cost' calculation. It has been since 2008. Occupiers of houses and flats firstly want to know their likely energy bills NOT carbon dioxide emissions. The certificate is very much 'fit for purpose'. It always has been. They are prepared by a nation-wide group of trained and qualified energy efficiency assessors who are audited by the Government to ensure accuracy. Have anyone on this site actually spoken to their energy assessor or paid extra for their professional advice? I have on many occasions for my rental units. The commercial EPC is a 'carbon dioxide' calculation. The clear MEES Regs for commercial buildings has already and will continue to massively improve the UK building stock. Solely because of EPCs and MEES I have been improving my commercial rental units, with the aim to get them all up to Grade B within the next 3 years.

From: Martin Gibbons 31 January 2023 07:32 AM

Martin Gibbons
I've posted this before but I've taken this matter into my own hands. I haven't got time to wait for the Government I have a 3-bed rental, built in 1959 and it's not Listed. It was an EPC Grade E and my tenant was complaining of high energy bills last winter. 1. I got my domestic EPC assessor to prepare a draft 'as is' EPC and a draft 'predicted' EPC for the house based on the refurb I was planning to do. 2. My handyman installed 100mm of loft insulation between the joists and then an extra 200mm layer of loft insulation at right angles across the joists. This is current Building Regs standard for a new house. Loft insulation is £24 for a big roll at B&Q 3. I had a Google Nest thermostat/timer installed. I ordered this direct from Google and a professional installer fitted it within the price. 4. My plumber installed TRVs on all the rads and showed the tenant how to use them. 5. My electrician fitted a 'kill switch' by the front door wired into the lighting circuits of the Distribution Board. As the tenant leaves the house one push of the button turns off all the lights in the house. Very simple and effective. 6. My handyman changed all non-LED lamps over to Philip LED lamps 7.I had already got my handyman to install solid insulation board between the joists on the ground floor prior to some recarpeting that I did a few years ago. 8. Pioneer Insulation fitted external wall insulation around the walls. This was a big investment but the house now looks brand new and it's a unit that I'm holding long-term. 9. I couldn't justify the expense of new windows so I bought 'poor man's' secondary glazing from a small British company called WindowSkin. I used their product before to cover a large sash window in the winter in a draughty office that I use to rent. It's a custom cut piece of totally clear Perspex that clips on the inside of the window frame in winter to cut out 100% of window draughts. Stores under a bed in the summer. 10. Whilst we were at it my handyman installed a Nuaire DriMaster Heat Positive Input Ventilation (PIV) unit up in the ventilated loft with a outlet in the 1st floor landing ceiling. The tenant was moaning about condensation and being unable to dry clothes/towels. This simple fit-and-forget unit has totally solved these problems. 11. My EPC assessor came back after I had completed these works and gave the house an EPC Grade B by one point (score 81)). This certificate stays on the national database for the next 10-years. My mortgage broker expects to be able to get a better rate for me now that I have a 10-year valid EPC Grade B when I have to refinance next year. The above project took me about 10 x phone-calls and 2 x site visits to sort out. It really wasn't that onerous and I was surprised how straightforward it was after I’d done the initial research I'm now close to finishing a similar package of works on my own family home – this will raise it from an EPC Grade E to a Grade C and will start to really reduce my energy bills in the next few weeks.

From: Martin Gibbons 14 September 2022 14:09 PM

Martin Gibbons
I have a 3-bed rental, built in 1959 and it's not Listed. It was an EPC Grade E and my tenant was complaining of high energy bills last winter. I give the following information to readers free of charge because it's worked very nicely for me 1. I got my domestic EPC assessor to prepare a new draft 'as is' EPC and a draft 'predicted' EPC for the house based on the refurb I was planning to do. 2. My handyman installed 100mm of loft insulation between the joists and then an extra 200mm layer of loft insulation at right angles across the joists. This is current Building Regs standard for a new house. Loft insulation is £24 for a big roll at B&Q 3. I had a Google Nest thermostat/timer installed. I ordered this direct from Google and a professional installer fitted it within the price. 4. My plumber installed TRVs on all the rads and showed the tenant how to use them. 5. My electrician fitted a 'kill switch' by the front door wired into the lighting circuits of the Distribution Board. As the tenant leaves the house one push of the button turns off all the lights in the house. Very simple and effective. 6. My handyman changed all non-LED lamps over to Philip LED lamps 7.I had already got my handyman to install solid insulation board between the joists on the ground floor prior to some recarpeting that I did a few years ago. 8. Pioneer Insulation fitted external wall insulation around the walls. This was a big investment but the house now looks brand new and it's a unit that I'm holding long-term. 9. I couldn't justify the expense of new windows so I bought 'poor man's' secondary glazing from a small British company called WindowSkin. I used their product before to cover a large sash window in the winter in a draughty office that I use to rent. It's a custom cut piece of totally clear Perspex that clips on the inside of the window frame in winter to cut out 100% of window draughts. Stores under a bed in the summer. 10. Whilst we were at it my handyman installed a Nuaire DriMaster Heat Positive Input Ventilation (PIV) unit up in the ventilated loft with a outlet in the 1st floor landing ceiling. The tenant was moaning about condensation and being unable to dry clothes/towels. This simple fit-and-forget unit has totally solved these problems. 11. My EPC assessor came back after I had completed these works and gave the house an EPC Grade B by one point (score 81)). This certificate stays on the national database for the next 10-years. My mortgage broker expects to be able to get a better rate for me now that I have a 10-year valid EPC Grade B when I have to refinance next year. The above project took me about 10 x phone-calls and 2 x site visits to sort out. It really wasn't that onerous and I was surprised how straightforward it was after I’d done the initial research I'm now close to finishing a similar package of works on my own family home – this will raise it from an EPC Grade E to a Grade C and will start to really reduce my energy bills in the next few weeks..

From: Martin Gibbons 08 September 2022 07:06 AM

Martin Gibbons
For the life of me I can't understand what all the fuss is about landlords not being able to improve the energy efficiency (and therefore the EPC) of their investment buildings. I, like thousands of other professional landlords, realised this when EPCs were introduced way back in 2008. It not like the Government has sprung it on us! Over the years I've been spending some of my annual rental income on improving loft insulation and cavity wall insulation. I've used external wall insulation on one of my properties - the EPC up-lift for me and energy cost saving for the tenant have been extremely good. I've recently installed Dimplex Quantum night storage heaters in a rental flat. I've helped my tenant sign-up to an off-peak electricity tariff, which is a fraction of the cost of expensive 'day time' electricity'. Night storage heaters have come on massively since the 1980s and retain the heat all day whilst the tenant is out at work. It's a pile of bricks in a steel box and is ideal for rental homes where the tenant can be less than careful. A domestic EPC is an energy COST calculation, the worse the Grade the more my tenant has to pay to the NPower, British Gas (and indirectly the Qatari Royal Family and Vladimir Putin) and the less money they have to pay my rent. It makes good financial sense to drive down the money my tenants have to pay in energy costs. Don't landlords on this Blog understand this? Every single resi landlord mate of mine in the Thames Valley has either fixed-up their houses and flats to EPC Grade C or long since sold their 'difficult' assets and reinvested the capital in energy efficient homes (which can indeed be both older or modern buildings) For me and other professional landlords this simply is not an issue and not a problem. Relaxing Planning regulations so I and others can build a few more houses and flats for renters would be a far better issue for us all to campaign on. Domestic EPCs and MEES is NOT what rational landlords worry about.

From: Martin Gibbons 16 February 2022 07:19 AM

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